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Candid Klobuchar Talks Shop with Bloggers

by: Joe Bodell

Tue Oct 09, 2007 at 22:40:58 PM CDT


U.S. Senator Amy Klobuchar met with several area bloggers on Tuesday afternoon, including myself, to discuss her work so far in Washington D.C., children's health care, FISA, Iraq, and a bevy of related issues.

Klobuchar has come under fire in recent months for her votes on several of these issues, most especially those related to intelligence-gathering activities and the continuing occupation of Iraq. This fire has come not from her Republican opponents, however, but rather from Democratic activists and bloggers who have been frustrated by the lack of positive movement on problems they feel the Democratic congressional majorities were elected to fix.

I asked the Senator about the tension between partisanship and statespersonship, about sticking to one's party line on principle or compromising with the other side to get something done.  She gave what one might call a balanced answer:  it depends on the issue.  She cited the energy standards bill passed earlier this year (which raised fuel efficiency standards for the first time in many years) as an example where compromise got things done -- she would have preferred higher fuel efficiency standards, but the bill represented an important move in the right direction.

Read more -- with video -- after the break

Joe Bodell :: Candid Klobuchar Talks Shop with Bloggers
Eric Pusey of MN Blue wanted to know about the FISA vote taken just before the August recess, which provided the Bush Administration with a six-month temporary authorization for certain types of domestic wiretapping.  Klobuchar said that she doesn't defend the Protect America Act -- it should have ben much better.  But she also said that she will not vote for the same deal again, and that her main focus at that legislation's sunset will be to balance surveillance needs against civil liberties, and beter define what U.S. intelligence agencies are listening in on.

Pusey came away with a more positive opinion:  "As a DFL activist who was really angry with her over the combination of her supplemental war funding vote, FISA vote and condemnation of MoveOn.org, I get a better idea that she is doing many good things. I'd given her a C grade which after our meeting, I will raise to a B-."

On Iraq, Klobuchar said bluntly that there is currently "not enough incentive for this [Iraqi] government to get its act together."  She advocated deadlines on withdrawal of American combat troops, and said that Democrats in Congress needed to push votes again and again to force wavering Republicans to "put their votes where their mouths are" on taking decisive action to end the occupation of Iraq. 

The meeting, which we are hoping to make a regular occurrence, illustrates an important aspect of the relationship between politics and the New Media:  a lack of personal connection and regular communication makes attacking each other much easier, and understanding much more difficult.  Even with a press release or an email from a staffer, it's not too difficult to flame a Congressperson for a vote or two.  But in an environment where those covering the news have a personal, political, or ideological stake in how events unfold, a personal meeting from time to time has the potential to untangle at least a small piece of the mess that is our nation's capital.

I ran into this effect head-on this summer, when the leaders of OpenLeft.com asked for profiles of Democrats they deemed "Bush Dogs":  Democrats who capitulated to President Bush unnecessarily on Iraq-related votes.  Minnesota Rep. Tim Walz was on the list, and I volunteered to write a profile for the series.  I was informed, however, that the fruits of my labor weren't exactly what was being sought, but I couldn't be dishonest.  Having met Walz once or twice, interviewed him as a candidate, and kept in close touch with his staff, I could honestly say that despite two bad votes, the body of Walz's work in his first term did not yet merit the negative focus of the Bush Dog campaign.

So on one hand, the merits of Klobuchar's FISA vote were difficult for many in the left-leaning blogosphere and activist community to swallow.  On the other hand, when it's not filtered through press releases and deadlines and column-inch limitations, her commitment to fixing that bill upon expiration is somewhat more firm than I expected it to be.

So now we can hold her to that commitment, and Minnesota's junior Senator can engage the Netroots and New Media directly.  Both, I should think, are good things.

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As someone who had put Klobuchar in the "Good Democrat Gone Bad" camp, I may have to rethink my opinion. 

Outside the answers themselves, I give her a lot of credit for sitting down in this kind of forum and having a candid discussion.  She could have easily continued to issue press releases and make large crowd appearances.  And I guess it just reinforces, to me, how filtered things can get, even at just one or two degrees of separation.


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Sorry, not good enough.  There was a chance to clear up FISA but she choose to stand with Boy Blunders defenders.  The new bill being pushed will not only continue the abuse it will add  legal protection for the offenders.  DINO Steny Hoyer has already announce his support.

There is still no meaningful effort to put real control over spending in Iraq and no hope for the foreseeable future.

Nice words are just that.  Until she steps up and does the right thing nice words only make the whole situation worse.

Perhaps if she had a son in the military as I do she would more readily see that nice words are only leading to more dead bodies.


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Who told you this?... "I was informed, however, that the fruits of my labor weren't exactly what was being sought, but I couldn't be dishonest."

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I'm curious too.  Who asked you to be dishonest? 

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I can see how my wording could be misunderstood (0.00 / 0)
I was not asked to be dishonest.  A more clear wording would have been "I was informed [by you, Matt] that the fruits of my labor weren't exactly what was being sought.  However, an entirely negative profile of Walz at that time would have belied my somewhat more closeup observation of Walz's work."

My apologies for the lack of clarity. 


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Who asked you to write an entirely negative profile of Walz?  I have the correspondence, I'd be happy to forward it to you.  In rereading it, mostly I made a number of suggestions.  One, I asked you to explain why Walz made a bad vote on FISA, not to excuse it by pretending it wasn't a bad vote on FISA.  Two, I asked you to include district information so that people could understand Walz.

You ignored both requests, and I put your profile in the Bush Dog blogroll anyway.  So who asked you to write a negative profile of Walz, and who told you that your labors were in error?


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Perhaps I misunderstood the point of the Bush Dogs series (0.00 / 0)
My impression was that its goal was to provide information on Democrats across the country who were voting the wrong way on important issues, with an eye toward potential primary challenges to those Democrats.  If that wasn't the goal, I can tell you firsthand that in at least one state called home by a member of the Bush Dog list, it certainly came off that way. 

As for your note about providing more background on Walz's voting history -- my bad.  Things were busy, still are, and it fell off the list.  There was some good discussion in the comments on my original post, however, and I believe that discussion shed some light on the topics on which we were seeking some more information.

But for the time being, I think that's all I'll say about it.


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um, no (0.00 / 0)
The goal was to provide information on members that voted badly, without any specific end in mind except a change of behavior.

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to know who came up with a lame term like "Bush Dogs" to begin with?

As much as I have been very disappointed in a number of votes from Walz and Klobuchar, they do not come near a silly moniker like that.

but what do we know out here in "fly-over" country?  It's not like these are our candidates or anything....  wait a sec...

-Ag


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Bush Dogs (3.00 / 1)
I don't know who coined it but it is an apt description for representatives like Tim & Amy that ran on opposition to Bush but vote to give him everything he wants and more on FISA and Iraq.  It is a play on Blue Dog, being those who support Republican budget bullshit.

As for those of us in fly-over land - the first step in solving the problem is admitting you have a problem.  We here in Minnesota have a problem.  It is quite simply that we elected a Senator and a Congressman who campaigned one way and voted a different way.  Sorry if you are uncomfortable with the moniker, feel free to come up with a better one.

BTW - I can't buy the "except for selling us down the river on constitutional protections and that little whoopsie in Iraq they are all swell folks" argument.  Mussolini made the trains run on time - BFD.  They failed on the two largest issues they have had to face & not just failed a little they failed spectacularly.  They have to be told that that is not acceptable, unless you are OK with FISA and Iraq as they are today.



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